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Submitted by
Rob
a Racer
from Illinois Date Reviewed: January 29, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | John Muir | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Stay true, stiff, look good. | | Weaknesses: | A little heavy, but that helps them hold up. | | Similar Products Used: | Crossmax, 517, Mustang | | Bike Setup: | Homegrown Factory, XTR, yadda yadda | | Bottom Line: | Great rim for XC riding/training. Okay for racing - a little on the heavy side. But, they've held up very well. Don't show any signs of wear after two hard seasons. But, I don't do 6' drops either. Just hard climbing and riding. If you need a good training rim, these will do ya. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pave
a Weekend Warrior
from Turku, , Finland Date Reviewed: March 1, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Still looking... | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | 2nd hand | | Strengths: | Low rolling resistans (spinning goes on and on and on...), STD ball bearings, looks (X-Link Disc). | | Weaknesses: | Weak freewheel (inner body cracked). Lifetime of original bearings in nasty conditions. The rims stay true (and the rear rim on center line) only when the sprokets are left slightly loose -> flexy. The constant need of maintenance, special components are expensive and hard to find. | | Similar Products Used: | CampaMirox/XT, 517/XTR/DTRevo, SyncrosXLR/XTR/DTRevo, Coda Expert, BontragerMustang/LX... | | Bike Setup: | C-dale S-V700 ´00 with few modifications | | Bottom Line: | XC will do, but NOT for freeriders. Standard wheels are easier to maintenance and cheaper to repair after a crash. Great wheels, if you are not a jumper, dropper or crasher! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hans Abba
a Cross Country Rider
from NJ Date Reviewed: July 19, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Bike Show | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Light, looks, stays true | | Weaknesses: | flex, crappy skewers | | Similar Products Used: | Crap | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar Team, XT | | Bottom Line: | These are good rims for the money. They are some of the best looking wheels and get the job done. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
STEVE a FREErider
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from Edmonton, Canada Date Reviewed: June 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Light, fast acceleration, very strong | | Weaknesses: | not tree-proof | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 221 w/ XT | | Bike Setup: | Giant XCX DS1 | | Bottom Line: | I started off loving the acceleration and smooth rolling, but then I found out that these wheels suck at hitting trees. 1 4" poplar tree and I had to shell out $175 CDN and wait two weeks for Mavic to come through with a new rim. Replacement parts should definately be more accessible. These rims are tough, I routinely drop them from 6 feet or more to sometimes flat landings and they take the abuse beautifully. Rarely do they require truing. Very tough. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris Russell
a Racer
from Toronto, Canada Date Reviewed: April 14, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | radical, hardwood hills | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Ability to stay true Cost | | Weaknesses: | Loose spoke | | Similar Products Used: | LX/238 LX/M521 | | Bike Setup: | 99 GT Zaskar LE, XTR, Z2 A-BOMB | | Bottom Line: | Had a problem with one spoke that would not stay tight. Called local rep, he said that I should use loc tite in red bottle to stop it; fixed the problem. A good set of wheels. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
SK
a Cross-Country Rider
from Milwaukee, WI Date Reviewed: January 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Emma Carlin | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Strong wheelset, decent price (although it came stock on my bike). | | Weaknesses: | Rear wheel wont stay true, kind of chunky, servicability. | | Similar Products Used: | Chris King, Old LX/522 set | | Bike Setup: | GT Zaskar LE with SID XC | | Bottom Line: | Mavic does a pretty good job on this wheelset. I think they are being extremely generous in saying that this wheelset is 750/950. More like 850/1020... Back wheel fell out of true after a few rides. I never even pounded it, and I am a 165 lbs rider. That's what spoke wrenches are for. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Cross-Country Rider
from Knoxville Date Reviewed: January 1, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Looks, light weight, price ($249) | | Weaknesses: | Cheap skewers, rear wheel will not stay true. | | Similar Products Used: | LX/Mavic 238 | | Bike Setup: | Litespeed Obed | | Bottom Line: | I weigh about 160 lbs, so I'm no clydesdale, yet the rear wheel refuses to stay true for a whole ride. The silver lining: a rubbing rear brake certainly makes for a good workout, I guess.Also, the skewers are pretty darn cheap and heavy-- I used my old LX skewers instead. Does anybody want to swap their new XT/517s for my nearly new Crosslinks? Didn't think so! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry
a Cross-Country Rider
from Catskill Mtns, New York Date Reviewed: December 29, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | none that i can tell | | Weaknesses: | heavy. acceleration no better than stock XT hubs laced to any decent rim w/DT spokes. rear won't stay true. spokes freeze to nipples. | | Similar Products Used: | XT hubs w/Sun subIV rims XT hubs w/Mavic 517 rims XT hubs w/Mavic 222 rims | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain Element Race Mar. Z-3 fork, Fox vanilla coil rear | | Bottom Line: | 25-50% more expensive than other wheelsets that offer the same performance. to many reliability problems for a wheelset from a respected company like Mavic. they make great rims for the road. if you enamored with these, make me an offer and they are yours. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cliff Leonard
a Cross-Country Rider
from Tallahassee, FL Date Reviewed: December 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Secret Single Track | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Light weight, great price $230, look cool | | Weaknesses: | Must true after every ride! | | Similar Products Used: | Crossland, XT Mavic | | Bike Setup: | Ritchy frame with SID & XTR | | Bottom Line: | Like I said they look cool are light weight and cost little. However they do not stay true. I weigh 150 lbs. ride under 100 miles a week offrode and I keep the bike on the ground, so I should be able to ride the weakest wheel and not screw it up. Unfortunaly I have to always carry a spoke wrench for the rear wheel. The lateraly (strait) laced rear wheel always loosens at least a couple spokes about every other ride sometimes more often than that. Sometimes it seporates from the nipple! I notice very few others complained of this, maybe I got a bum set. My opinion is it is best to stick with a Shimano/Mavic set up because they are bomb proof and can be repaired anywhere. Happy Riding!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Vid
a Cross-Country Rider
from central Ontario Date Reviewed: November 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | thre stages Collingwood | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Light STRONG fsat!!!! | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Bike Setup: | Marin hardtail w/XT & XTR | | Bottom Line: | Kick ass rims, great all round rims, 2 thumbs up! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Cross-Country Rider
from Milwaukee, WI Date Reviewed: October 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | John Muir Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Look great Strong, haven't needed truing since I got them. | | Weaknesses: | None! | | Similar Products Used: | Ritchey Vantage Expert Ritchey Rock Pro | | Bike Setup: | Tricked out GT Ricochet (got the frame new for $70!) Full XT group, Z1BAM | | Bottom Line: | Great Rims for the money you pay! The only extras you get on Crossmax is aluminum nips and a few other little things, other than that Crosslink and Crossmax are exactly the same. Had these rims for 5 or 6 months and weigh 230 and have had no problems with them coming out of true. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joel Slezak
a Racer
from Chicago IL Date Reviewed: October 29, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Palos Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Stay true after hard rides and or races. Have good excelleration. | | Weaknesses: | Scewers are cheep | | Bottom Line: | My old weels would have to be trued after every ride, but these wheels stay true. They are not too expensive. I have have the wheels come loose during rides, that must be due to cheep skewers, but you could buy new ones. Overal if you don't have much money to spend on a top of the line set of wheel, you can't go wrong with the Cross Link | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ryan
a Racer
from Williamstown, MA Date Reviewed: October 29, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Waterbar | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Light weight Strength Good Acceleration | | Weaknesses: | We shall see | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic w/ XT hub Mavic Crossland | | Bike Setup: | Steel hardtail w/ XT components and Manitou fork | | Bottom Line: | These are great wheels for the price. For a little extra dough over regular ole' wheels you get a great combination of features - good hubs, light weight, decent lateral stiffness and noticeably better acceleration. I race the northeastern collegiate circuit and have had no problems over the course of several long races, just had to true them once after my first long training ride. I highly recommend these wheels for training and racing, especially for those who can't shell out the bucks/don't need Crossmax wheels. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris King
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sweden Date Reviewed: October 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Strong, light. | | Weaknesses: | Cheap skewers!! | | Similar Products Used: | Sun, Araya, Mavic. | | Bike Setup: | Race Face LP Turbine, Magura Harlequin, XT F&R Derailleur, Manitou M4 | | Bottom Line: | These wheels works very good for me. Good acceleration!http://zap.to/chrisking | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Puff the Magic Dragon
a Cross-Country Rider
from Buena Park, CA. Date Reviewed: October 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | San Juan Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Rims | | Weaknesses: | The cheapest freewheel hub ive ever laid eyes on. | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager Corvair, Rolf Dolomite, Mavic 221 | | Bike Setup: | Tricked out schwinn mesa, Trek 8500 | | Bottom Line: | I dont know what the hell the deal is but if you look further down you will see i have commented on this before. After getting the freewheel hub repaired once by Mavic (Which took at least two months to turn around). I set on a journey, happy to have the crosslink back on the schwinn after riding on a 221 for the duration of the repair. But low and behold that worthless freewheel hub decides to fall apart in the middle of my delightful jaunt through the horse trails of fullerton. No more than 45 minutes back on the it and the same little collar inside snaps. Well let me tell you something, I'd rather go to my LBS everyday to true up the 221 than wait another two months for something that is going to fall apart again. Oh and try calling Mavic's customer service line, you'll get a chance to record your voice just like a professional singer. With one drawback, I dont think anyone listens and i highly doubt you'll ever get into the top 40. With that said I rescind my four flamin' chili's awarded to Mavic's efforts in my previous post and give them what they truly deserve. One flamin' chili for the rims. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shawn
a Cross-Country Rider
from Albuquerque Date Reviewed: October 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Finger Lake Trail - Mt Morris, NY | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Strong Light Great Looking Quiet Rear Hub | | Weaknesses: | The Skewers | | Similar Products Used: | X221's | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalance w/Z-2 XTR/LX Crosslinks w/ Kore Skewers Ti-Race Liberator Saddle Thudbuster Seatpost | | Bottom Line: | Great, inexpensive, lightweight wheelset. They can take a beating and still run very true. I really like the quiet freehub and so do those whom I ride with. I will admit that they aren't the lightest, for wheelsets available in this price range, I think they are tough to beat. And now that the prices are coming down, everyone should give them a look. Got mine for $300 but have seen them for $249. The skewers must go, or Mavic should redesign them. They are heavy and poorly made. They will eventually break on you. Despite the skewer issue, they still get a 5. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff Bell
a Cross-Country Rider
from Va. Beach, VA Date Reviewed: October 3, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | light, smooth bearings, look cool | | Weaknesses: | flex, flex, and flex | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager Maverick | | Bike Setup: | Klien Pulse. RS Judy fork. | | Bottom Line: | I weigh 240lbs+, and tend to break things when I ride, so when I saw how flimsy these wheels looked, I decided to put slicks on them and just use them on the road. It didn't help. I have to true them after every ride. A 60 mile road ride is impossible w/o a spoke tool, unless I want to ride with the rear brake disconnected (I did that yesterday). Compared to my old wheels, I've been really easy on these wheels, but they just can't handle the stress. They might be OK if you're 150lbs and keep them close to the ground, but for me they are worthless. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chuck
a Cross-Country Rider
from Huntsville, Al Date Reviewed: October 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | high trail | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | light, durable, cool stickers | | Weaknesses: | spokes hard to work with | | Similar Products Used: | weinmann,bontrager | | Bike Setup: | Trek 830AL,xt,judy xlc | | Bottom Line: | These rims are the bomb for the money. I've only had to true the rear once. It's a pain though to true because the spokes want to twist on you. I can live with that! These rims are definately worth the 250$ I paid for them. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
euegene
a Weekend Warrior
from dobbs Ferry Date Reviewed: September 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | graham hills | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | da bomb | | Weaknesses: | da bomb | | Similar Products Used: | xt, xtr, chris king, nukeproof | | Bike Setup: | kona nu nu | | Bottom Line: | simply the best for a goooood price. last long, very sexy looking and light. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
al
a Cross-Country Rider
from zapopan, jalisco Date Reviewed: September 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | bearings | | Weaknesses: | heavy | | Similar Products Used: | xtr,xt,am classic, king mavic 217, sun m14, ritchey wcs | | Bike Setup: | breezer, xtr | | Bottom Line: | these wheels are heavy. you can get stock xtr hubs, dt revolution spokes, and mavic 517 rims for the same price and they will be 1/2lb lighter, not to mention, you wont have to mail them to mavic for service or wait for special parts. dont be fooled by gimmicry. 3 stars for smooth bearings, looks and durability. minus 1 for h ype and cost | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TomW
a Cross-Country Rider
from Marlboro, MA Date Reviewed: September 15, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Callahan State Park | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Eye candy | | Weaknesses: | None found yet | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 221 with LX hubs | | Bike Setup: | 1998 Cannondale F1000 with small frame (killer-V style) - mostly XT equipment - all stock except for the wheelset | | Bottom Line: | With the deal I got on these at $249 delivered, it was well worth the upgrade from my stock wheels. My front end is even more responsive than before. I really dig the silent rear hub - we call it stealth mode on group rides - scare your friends :) I took a REALLY hard hit on the front wheel last week, on a rock, that instantly flatted out the tire (3 holes in the tube) and the wheel wasn't phased AT ALL - quite impressed so far. If these wheels were just a bit lighter so I can keep up with my friends' quest for the lightest bike. But for the price - it is a smart choice for those without the unlimited expense accounts. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Barrie
a Weekend Warrior
from London Date Reviewed: September 11, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Reasonable price, look good, light and strong | | Weaknesses: | Look too good (my first pair were stolen) | | Similar Products Used: | Stock wheels on 98 Trek 6500zx | | Bike Setup: | Trek 6500zx, SID XC long travel, Raceface cranks and rings, bit of Chris King, some XTR, USE post etc, etc. | | Bottom Line: | I bought my first pair for £200, lasted two weeks and some tea leaf stole them. I guess they just looked too good. I know Bontrager Race Lites and Crossmax are better, but hey when I bought my Crosslinks I still had some change left to buy a set of Raceface cranks. There does seem to be some discrepancy over the weights, however. When I bought a replacement set with the insurance money I weighed them and the rear wheel was just over 1000grams and the front was just over 800 (excluding skewers). Though my kitchen scales are not the most accurate in the world. That said, even if Mavic did exaggerate a little with the weights, they still feel light enough and accelerate well. Although some of the other reviewers have complained about the skewers I have not experienced any problems as yet. The skewers are also lighter than the Shimano ones which came with my bike and I managed to bend one of these!!!!!!!! I thought these wheels were so good that I bought another pair with my insurance money. REMEMBER ALWAYS HAVE INSURANCE. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aurel
a Cross-Country Rider
from New York, NY Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | weight, stiffness | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Bike Setup: | raleigh m-80, Panaracer Mach SS F/R | | Bottom Line: | Much better wheel than expected. Replaced original wheels from my M-80. These are light and faaast. Much more control over the ride. Feel totally stable...and they look good too. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stephan
a Cross-Country Rider
from Holland Date Reviewed: September 6, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Schoorl (Holland) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Price Looks Stiffness | | Weaknesses: | skewers | | Similar Products Used: | Rigida wheels (the suck!) | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX | | Bottom Line: | These are the best wheels for such low price. Just give them a try and you'll love them. In my first review i gave the wheels 2 stars, I forgot to click on the stars. Stupid me! But as you read from other bikers: MAVIC Crosslink RULES! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stephan
a Cross-Country Rider
from Holland Date Reviewed: September 6, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Schoorl (Holland) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Good stiffness, Price. looks | | Weaknesses: | skewers | | Similar Products Used: | Rigida weels | | Bike Setup: | Giant Atx | | Bottom Line: | Good weels for a nice price. Instruction manual is good, only the Mavic tool is from poor plastic | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Will
a Racer
from Sydney,australia Date Reviewed: August 26, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Waterfall | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Weight,as stiff as spinergys | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | mavic D321 | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose NX 9.5 XT/XTR everywhere look Fox Vinalla R and X-vert R | | Bottom Line: | excellent for dual slamom | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lloyd
a Cross-Country Rider
from NJ Date Reviewed: August 10, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Flock Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | super value, Mavic quality | | Weaknesses: | skewers are sharp | | Similar Products Used: | XT/DT/217's | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar Pro, 99 Z-1 BAM XTR XT SRAM custom all around | | Bottom Line: | Best wheels for the money. I work in a bike store and see many wheels shit the bed but not Mavics. Only Phil Wood and Chris King have bearings of equal quality. You get a X-max hubs, what more can ask for??? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
J.Stein
a Cross-Country Rider
from Waterloo, IA Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Sugar Bottom | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Bottom Line: | This is a follow-up for a review that I posted earlier this year. These are light, trick looking cross country rims for the money. Don't attempt to race dual salom in them though, they are no where near being strong enough. I bent both rims in a race last weekend. I will be looking for a stronger set in the near future. 5 chilies for cross country, none for dual salom | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael
a Cross-Country Rider
from Park City, UT Date Reviewed: July 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Wasatch Crest | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Looks Strength Quiet well-built hubs | | Weaknesses: | Crappy, cheap skewers | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 317 Bontrager Mustang | | Bike Setup: | Merlin Echo, tricked out with XTR, etc. | | Bottom Line: | I'm upgrading my previous review, because of more experience with the wheels. I'm a Clydesdale on the trail, so I was truly worried about this wheels. Well, no truing required, rims are in perfect shape, and the spokes are still in tensions. I have hit a number of drop-offs, rocks, ruts, and other annoyances on the trail, and no problems whatsoever. I thought my wheels where out of true, but when they put them on the truing stand, they were perfect, even after about 350 miles of driving. (My brakes, on the other hand, were completely screwed up, making me think that the wheel was out of true.)These are great wheels, probably the best I've ever ridden. I've had no problems with the hubs, and they appear to be XT quality.Remember to add 30-75 bucks for better skewers.
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Submitted by
Raindog
a Cross-Country Rider
from North Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: July 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Light weight | | Weaknesses: | Cheap skewers | | Bike Setup: | GT Zaskar LE Rock Shox SID XC | | Bottom Line: | At first I liked the light weight - until I bent the rear rim 2 days before a race (it was only about my 5th ride on the trails with the new bike). John Henry Bikes put on a loaner wheel for the race for me (many thanks to them) and sent the crosslink in for repairs. Its been 3 weeks now and I have to wait at another 2 weeks for Mavic to send a new rim to fix the wheel. Why so long to wait for a rim? I'm guessing its one of 2 things. 1) The wheel is so crappy that they can't keep up with fixing them. 2) Poor management in that they believed there would be no problems with the rim and thus did not stock any spares in their warehouose. One flaming chili for Mavic as their product and service have sucked. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Puff the Magic Dragon
a Cross-Country Rider
from Buena Park, CA Date Reviewed: June 28, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | none yet | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | bombproof rims | | Weaknesses: | freewheel hub | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 221 | | Bike Setup: | the most tricked out schwinn mesa on the planet! | | Bottom Line: | I tagged the rear real hard once and the next ride it felt like the cassette had come loose. This was not the case a threaded collar inside the freewheel had snapped in half and when i took it apart all the ball bearings fell out on the floor. Suprising that the rim stay true but the hub fell apart from the impact? I have to give them 4 flamin' chili's because the rims are definitely strong but the freewheel hub leaves much to be desired. As far as customer service goes i sent them in last week and should have the replacement this week, we'll see about that. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
J. Stein
a Cross-Country Rider
from Waterloo, IA Date Reviewed: June 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Sugar Bottom/Gravity Cavity | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | light, looks good, apparent attention to quality | | Weaknesses: | cheap skewers | | Similar Products Used: | bontrager race | | Bike Setup: | 1998 GT STS Marzocchi Z2 Atom Bomber / Rock Shox Coupe Deluxe XTR drivetrain / brakes | | Bottom Line: | If your looking for a light, trick looking, fairly cheap set of rims there is no need to look any further. Climbing is more efficent (using IRC Mythos XC 2.1) and running down a fire road is fast rolling and smooth. I ordered this wheelset from speedgoat for a super low price, check them out. One other thing, I got these rims sent 2nd day UPS and I also work there so spent the morning that they were supposed to come in searching the trucks. To my dismay they were at the bottom of a two story semi under a bunch of overweight boxes. The boxes that they were in were crushed and I could see one of the rims poking through. I rushed to the local bike shop after work to have them looked at and believe it or not they were still perfectly true. If they survived that trip then they out to prove bombproof. I'll post a follow up in a few months. | Overall Rating: |
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